Elsa's seminar and the end of "Forrest Gump"

Extract from the syllabus (kursplan)

•       Skönlitteratur och annan fiktion även i talad, dramatiserad och filmatiserad form.

•       Samtal och diskussioner samt argumentation

•    Språkliga strategier för att bidra till och aktivt medverka i samtal genom att ta initiativ till interaktion, ge bekräftelse, ställa följdfrågor, ta initiativ till nya frågeställningar och ämnesområden samt för att avsluta samtalet.

          

Today we are going to have Elsa's

seminar about chapter 3 of "Lord of the Flies"

On Friday Linnea and Filippa will guide us 

through chapter 4

Here are the questions

Chapter 3: Huts on the Beach

Key quote

“If you’re hunting sometimes you catch yourself feeling as if--…There’s nothing in it of course. Just a feeling. But you can feel as if you’re not hunting, but—being hunted, as if something’s behind you all the time in the jungle.”

Questions

1. As this chapter opens, what is Jack doing? How has his appearance changed since the last chapter?

2. What is Ralph doing down by the shore? Why is he frustrated?

3. Why is there tension between Ralph and Jack? What are Ralph’s objectives or goals? Jack’s?

4. What reasons does Ralph give for needing the shelters?

5. Who first suggests they might not be on a “good” island? What has become unmentionable amongst the boys?

6. Where does Simon go when he leaves the boys?

Quotes

“I bet if I blew the conch this minute, they’d come running. Then we’d be, you know, very solemn…when the meeting was over they’d work for five minutes, then wander off or go hunting.”  

“Jack had to think for a moment before he could remember what rescue was.”

“They walked along, two continents of experience and feeling, unable to communicate.”

Discussion Questions

Jack says that sometimes he feels as if he’s being hunted when he is alone in the forest. Explain why he feels this way.

Reread the last eight paragraphs of this chapter. What kinds of imagery does Golding use in this section, and what do you think he is trying to convey? Also, why do you think he chose to include this section at this point in the book, and to focus on Simon?

What are some of the ways in which Simon’s character is revealed?

Chapter 4: Painted Faces and Long Hair

Key Quote

“Kill the pig. Cut her throat. Bash her in.”

Questions

1. At the beginning of this chapter, Golding describes the passing of day. What two parts of day are the boys most comfortable on the island?  Why? What two parts of the day aren’t they comfortable on the island?  Why?

2. What keeps Roger from actually hitting Henry with the stones he throws at the smaller boy?

3. What reason does Jack give for applying the colored clay to his face?

4. Why couldn’t the boys signal the ship that Ralph spotted on the horizon?

5. Where was Jack and his choir when Ralph spotted the smoke from the ship?

6. Why does Jack attack Piggy and what is the result of the attack?

7. What is Jack’s reaction when Simon gives Piggy the meat?

Quotes

“Here, invisible yet strong, was the taboo of the old life. Round the squatting child was the protection of parents and school and policemen and the law. Roger’s arm was conditioned by a civilization that knew nothing of him and was in ruins.”

“Ralph turned and smiled involuntarily…Piggy saw the smile and misinterpreted it as friendliness. There had grown up tacitly among the biguns the opinion that Piggy was an outsider.”

“He looked in astonishment, no longer at himself but at an awesome stranger…a mask that drew up their eyes and appalled them. He began to dance and his laughter became a bloodthirsty snarling…the mask was a thing on its own, behind which Jack hid, liberated from shame and self-consciousness.”

“So Ralph asserted his chieftainship and could not have chosen a better way if he had thought for days. Against his weapon…Jack was powerless and raged, without knowing why. By the time the pile was built, they were on different sides of a high barrier”

Discussion Questions

1. The older boys called the small boys “littluns.” Why is this label necessary from the point of view of the author as well as other characters? What does the fact that the littluns are basically nameless convey about their purpose in this story?

2.Does it appear that Jack knows he has made a mistake by taking all of the hunters with him to kill instead of leaving two as promised to keep the fire going?  How can you tell? Should his apology to Ralph be enough?

Why does Ralph call an assembly at the end of this chapter, when just at the beginning of chapter three he was complaining about how useless the meetings have been? What shift has taken place between he and Jack? Why does an assembly, with the conch at the platform have to take place?

Finally we will see the end of Forrest Gump and
start to work on the questions